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, george w. bush is your guy. this guy passed off neo conservatism as conservatism, passed off the idea of endless war and nation building to conservatives. he sold them a bill of goods and what they got back is medicare part d, ballooning deficit and crisis that devastated the country. a failed war in iraq that it was ill-advised to put it mildly and now, the coocoo's nest as he cullty mated to in -- cultivated to win elections in 2000 and 2004 think they're in charge and not going to listen to him saying they're not. >> what was the big thing with karl rove? did he start a war to celebrate the tax cut or have a tax cut to celebrate the war? he put it all together, joy put it right. i forget to mention the prescription drug thing thrown in without financing it. >> right. he did do a great job you know, mobilizing and energizing the right wing base to get behind bush and he and the others did a great thing in the last few years under barack obama getting them together by demonizing barack obama a
, george w. bush is your guy. this guy passed off neo conservatism as conservatism, passed off the idea of endless war and nation building to conservatives. he sold them a bill of goods and what they got back is medicare part d, ballooning deficit and crisis that devastated the country. a failed war in iraq that it was ill-advised to put it mildly and now, the coocoo's nest as he cullty mated to in -- cultivated to win elections in 2000 and 2004 think they're in charge and not going to listen...
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bush was their guy. and to convince evangelicals that george w. bush was your guy. and convince the business wing of the party and say george w. bush is your guy. he sold them a bill of goods, and what they got back was medicare part d, a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war -- a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground troops, the shock troops to win elections in 2000 and 2004, they think they're in charge and they're not going to listen to him saying they're not. >> what was the big thing with karl rove? did he start a war to celebrate the tax cut or have a tax cut to celebrate the war. i mean, he put it all together. joy put it right. i forgot to mention the prescription drug thing thrown in without financing it. >> right, right, right. and, you know, he did do a great job in the ots mobilizing and energizing the right wing base to get behind george w. bush, and then he and others did a great job in the last few years under barack obama of energizin
bush was their guy. and to convince evangelicals that george w. bush was your guy. and convince the business wing of the party and say george w. bush is your guy. he sold them a bill of goods, and what they got back was medicare part d, a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war -- a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground troops, the shock troops to win elections in 2000 and 2004,...
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>> i didn't have the problems with george w. bush either. i believe this is war, not law enforcement. i'm not going to answer, but with reality. i said to you these domestic drone attacks or holding in guantanamo bay would prevent a family member in the future being killed, right on. we sit here unless it hits close to home. i in the world of terror think there new rules. i'm a liberal overall and in this instance i think quite the opposite. >> this is not what brought down the bush administration. he was reelected. i know friends in the voting booth holding their babies and going to vote against bush and didn't because he was so "strong on foreign policy." i also don't think -- >> i trusted gorge bush to make hard tough decisions they thought john kerry might waiver on. >> thank you. that's why i don't think obama will have a problem with this. he will look like he did a year ago when he killed bin laden, he alongs strong on foreign policy and this will not provide a weak spot. >> i agree with you there. i don't think there will be a politi
>> i didn't have the problems with george w. bush either. i believe this is war, not law enforcement. i'm not going to answer, but with reality. i said to you these domestic drone attacks or holding in guantanamo bay would prevent a family member in the future being killed, right on. we sit here unless it hits close to home. i in the world of terror think there new rules. i'm a liberal overall and in this instance i think quite the opposite. >> this is not what brought down the bush...
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bush was really their guy and convinced evangelicals that george w. bush is your guy and convinced the right wing. he passed off neoconservatism as conservatism. he passed off the idea of endless war and nation building. he sold them a bill of goods, and what they got back was medicare part d, a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war -- a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground troops, they think they're in charge and they're not going to listen to him saying they're not. >> what was the big thing with karl rove? did he start a war to celebrate the tax cut or have a tax cut to celebrate the war. i mean, he put it all together. i forgot to mention the prescription drug thing thrown in without financing it. >> right, right, right. and, you know, he did do a great job, you know, mobilizing and energizing the right wing base to get behind george w. bush, and then he and others did a great job in the last few years under barack obama of energi
bush was really their guy and convinced evangelicals that george w. bush is your guy and convinced the right wing. he passed off neoconservatism as conservatism. he passed off the idea of endless war and nation building. he sold them a bill of goods, and what they got back was medicare part d, a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war -- a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground...
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bush, when they sort of corralled in the far right wing, convincing them that george w. bush was a true conservative which, of course, he turned out in their minds not to be. he turned out to be a big spender. he turned out to do medicare part d. he did all of these things. they were able to get the far right to go with them. now, since 2010, they've been allowed to govern. they've actually had real power. they're not going back into that mode. >> but, chris -- >> i don't think they like fighting aides in africa too much. >> but, chris, i also think the other thing that you said is very, very important, which is, in the old days, in the ronald reagan days, the enemy was over there. it was communism. it was the reds. and the binding principle of ronald reagan's conservativism was anti-communism, which had more to do with the world as a whole than the very power structure of your own political party. what's happened with the tea party is that they're constantly running against their own people, not only in washington, not only the government, but their own republican -- >>
bush, when they sort of corralled in the far right wing, convincing them that george w. bush was a true conservative which, of course, he turned out in their minds not to be. he turned out to be a big spender. he turned out to do medicare part d. he did all of these things. they were able to get the far right to go with them. now, since 2010, they've been allowed to govern. they've actually had real power. they're not going back into that mode. >> but, chris -- >> i don't think they...
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we have lower discretionary spending than we've had under george w. bush and what do we have now? the question what do they want? close military bases, right? gut medicare. something they talk about, but isn't actually popular when you, what, literally cut medicare. >> then when you end up cutting medicare. in terms of the sequester, if and when the president does address it tomorrow, is not supposed to focus on the defense piece, but on the nondefense piece. the programs that target, you know, young mothers, children. interesting the fact that he is not going to sort of the middle on this one, which is to say to talk at length about the defense cuts, but really the harm to low income families is definitely a choice. >> defense cuts, there's a lot that can be cut without weakening our country. there really is. that is an enormous, enormous, you know, chunk of revenue, as everybody knows. this is -- it would all be easier if we had more growth. that's the overwhelming story here. it's like if you have more growth, everything is better. you know, everything is lighter. it's sunnier.
we have lower discretionary spending than we've had under george w. bush and what do we have now? the question what do they want? close military bases, right? gut medicare. something they talk about, but isn't actually popular when you, what, literally cut medicare. >> then when you end up cutting medicare. in terms of the sequester, if and when the president does address it tomorrow, is not supposed to focus on the defense piece, but on the nondefense piece. the programs that target, you...
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during the bad old torturing prisoners days of the george w. bush administration. so you're going to have a brand-new president who bans torture, but then you're going to put a guy who was there for the whole torture regime in charge of the cia? yeah, there was an effort made to make the case that john brennan had been opposed to the torture methods while he had been at the cia, but nothing in his known professional tenure backed that up. at least not enough to save his nomination. and john brennan withdrew his name from consideration that year and he did not run the cia during barack obama's first term. instead, he got the world's greatest consolation prize. he became a very close white house adviser to the president, his white house counterterrorism adviser, and he was there at a time when the cia and the united states generally were not known for torturing people. we are not known for torturing people anymore. what we are known for in the obama era is not torturing people, but rather killing them. on the same day that president obama signed that executive order
during the bad old torturing prisoners days of the george w. bush administration. so you're going to have a brand-new president who bans torture, but then you're going to put a guy who was there for the whole torture regime in charge of the cia? yeah, there was an effort made to make the case that john brennan had been opposed to the torture methods while he had been at the cia, but nothing in his known professional tenure backed that up. at least not enough to save his nomination. and john...
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these kind of practices put in place by george w. bush. that is going to be -- we're going to close that chapter in american history. what this reveals is that that chapter is far from being closed. it's still being written. >> we are still arguing based on the movie "zero dark thirty" whether or not enhanced interrogation, torture, helped us get osama bin laden, and you hear conflicting reports about whether or not that was true. if you ask the average person, does interrogation enhance interrogation, does torture work? you'll get ten different anz. we are as a country very much grappling with these questions and trying to sort of move our way through the maze, and i think at the end of the day the chief executive determines that is he going to err on the side of the safety of the american people. if there is a judgment call to be made, he is going to say i will do what i need to do to protect this country, and i think george bush would have said that, and it's pretty clear that barack obama is saying that. >> franklin, i'm curious to kno
these kind of practices put in place by george w. bush. that is going to be -- we're going to close that chapter in american history. what this reveals is that that chapter is far from being closed. it's still being written. >> we are still arguing based on the movie "zero dark thirty" whether or not enhanced interrogation, torture, helped us get osama bin laden, and you hear conflicting reports about whether or not that was true. if you ask the average person, does...
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he was a deputy executive director of the cia during the george w. bush years. and the day before we got the rendition report on monday, nbc news michael isikoff broke the story of the justice department white paper, addressing the legal implications of the u.s. government in some way targeting u.s. citizens with drones. and now tonight the new breaking news that this classified memo justifying the legality of those strikes, this memo that the administration would not even cop to the existence of before tonight, tonight the breaking news that the president himself has ordered that justice department memo disclosed to the intelligence committees in congress. every day this week so far we have seen just an outpouring of new information that we didn't have before. about the most controversial, most secret actions and secret legal reasonings of this administration all leading up to john brennan's confirmation hearing here. it's almost like with john brennan set to testify before the intelligence committee, tomorrow might be the only chance we get to see somebody fro
he was a deputy executive director of the cia during the george w. bush years. and the day before we got the rendition report on monday, nbc news michael isikoff broke the story of the justice department white paper, addressing the legal implications of the u.s. government in some way targeting u.s. citizens with drones. and now tonight the new breaking news that this classified memo justifying the legality of those strikes, this memo that the administration would not even cop to the existence...
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what would george w. bush do? that's your standard? we had never allow a power to the presidency that we wouldn't feel comfortable giving to george w. bush? i think we can raise the bar a bit from that. let's keep in mind that the president does have the unilateral power to drop nuclear bombs and destroy the entire planet. do you feel the same about george w. bush having the nuclear codes as you do about president obama. call me a hypocrite, but i sure don't. all right. that does it for the cycle. martin bashir, it is all yours. >> thank you, krystal, and good afternoon. it's friday, february 8th. there's a blizzard slamming the northeast, a top spy getting hit hard, and karl rove singing for his supper. a busy friday indeed.
what would george w. bush do? that's your standard? we had never allow a power to the presidency that we wouldn't feel comfortable giving to george w. bush? i think we can raise the bar a bit from that. let's keep in mind that the president does have the unilateral power to drop nuclear bombs and destroy the entire planet. do you feel the same about george w. bush having the nuclear codes as you do about president obama. call me a hypocrite, but i sure don't. all right. that does it for the...
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. >> it's a hallmark george w. bush. the george w. bush who was elected. >> they have a new republic cover. when we look at the republican party now, it is the party of white people. think about the george w. bush moment, at least initially, we are not the party of white people. we are bringing latinos and a small portion of african-americans who are morality -- they were doing all kind of things to make it happen. they were imagining a more integrated party. >> it's the strategy for years. that's how we got clarence thomas. this hannan effort for years. i don't think it's going to work. it hasn't worked for the party for the last ten years. people see through the pictures. >> we'll stay on the issue of the gop because you are on fire about it. we want to talk about karl rove and what he thinks is going on as soon as we get back. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ thinking ] i wonder what other questionable choices i've made? [ club scene music ] [ sigh
. >> it's a hallmark george w. bush. the george w. bush who was elected. >> they have a new republic cover. when we look at the republican party now, it is the party of white people. think about the george w. bush moment, at least initially, we are not the party of white people. we are bringing latinos and a small portion of african-americans who are morality -- they were doing all kind of things to make it happen. they were imagining a more integrated party. >> it's the...
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w. we believe there is a better way to reduce the deficit, but americans do not support sacrificing any real spending cuts for more tax hikes. the white house believes house republicans, who have warmed up to the idea of letting the sequester take effect, may get a wake-up call as they continue to see those -- the economy contract, that the fourth quarter numbers will be a wake-up call. the president pointed out yesterday that those cuts in defense spending caused the economy to shrink at the end of 2012. >> we've been reminded that while it's critical for us to cut wasteful spending we can't just cut our way to prosperity. deep, indiscriminate cuts to things like education and training, energy and national security will cost us jobs. >> new numbers from the congressional budget office may provide some ammunition. the cbo projects the economy will grow at a measly rate of 1.4% this year and 3.4% next year. the cbo forecast is correct, 2014 will be the sixth consecutive year with unemploy
w. we believe there is a better way to reduce the deficit, but americans do not support sacrificing any real spending cuts for more tax hikes. the white house believes house republicans, who have warmed up to the idea of letting the sequester take effect, may get a wake-up call as they continue to see those -- the economy contract, that the fourth quarter numbers will be a wake-up call. the president pointed out yesterday that those cuts in defense spending caused the economy to shrink at the...
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i mean, can you imagine if george w. bush had proposed this idea? >> of course. that's obvious. >> i'm a little contrarian with you on this. i agree with the policy. i think it's a good idea. >> you think it's possible to kill americans without probable cause? >> thinking about the threats against us and the machiavellian plots, i'm willing to err on the side of giving government a little bit of latitude. >> americans don't have a constitution -- this kid, the 16-year-old kid, goes out to a restaurant and gets killed. >> i understand. >> because of his father. >> i'm sure i'm in the minority of the stable, maybe in america. >> that causes you no concern? >> as i said, joe -- >> constitutionally? >> really? >> i err on the side of giving the government latitude on this one. >> we have katty kay with us as well from washington. i didn't get to do the intros. good morning, katty. >> morning, mika. >> you want to chime in on drones? are you with mark mckinnon? >> i think there has to be a whole lot more open discussion of the kind -- we tried to raise a couple years
i mean, can you imagine if george w. bush had proposed this idea? >> of course. that's obvious. >> i'm a little contrarian with you on this. i agree with the policy. i think it's a good idea. >> you think it's possible to kill americans without probable cause? >> thinking about the threats against us and the machiavellian plots, i'm willing to err on the side of giving government a little bit of latitude. >> americans don't have a constitution -- this kid, the...
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campaign of george w. bush's campaign, but really of the bush republican party. there was pretty much a consensus, not total, but pretty solid consensus among conservatives and mainstream republicans in the republican party that george w. bush and karl rove put together starting in about 1999 and through george bush's presidency. what i meant by karl rove being done is not that he isn't a shrewd operator, not that american crossroads isn't going to spend a lot of money, not that he isn't going to be involved in a lot of campaigns, but he is not going to be the architect of a new republican party anymore, i don't think. i think his time has passed for that kind of thing because the party is too divided and the tea party is too angry. >> but the core of the republican party, the majority of the republican party is not fringe. i mean, i just think the fringe is giving them all kinds of problems. and i think rove is cagey. he is the kind of guy that doesn't make the same mistake twice. >> right. >> and the con
campaign of george w. bush's campaign, but really of the bush republican party. there was pretty much a consensus, not total, but pretty solid consensus among conservatives and mainstream republicans in the republican party that george w. bush and karl rove put together starting in about 1999 and through george bush's presidency. what i meant by karl rove being done is not that he isn't a shrewd operator, not that american crossroads isn't going to spend a lot of money, not that he isn't going...
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of course, george w. bush was manager and part owner from 1989 to 1998 before his presidential run. >>> to the nba, magic johnson court side watching the wizards take on the knicks. first quarter. john wall makes jason kidd look bad. that's what happens when you're 39 and getting dribbled on by a 22-year-old. amare stoudemire with the rejection. three blocks on the game. fourth quarter, wizards up by five. walsh gives it up to the teammate for the dunk. they snap the knicks winning streak. 106-96. the wizards win total now to a baker's dozen. coming up, there is bipartisan agreement in the senate but not on the issue of the white house was hoping for. members from both parties want answers from president obama when it comes to the u.s. government's targeted killing of american citizens overseas who have suspected ties to terror. important stuff. they have a senator in the middle of that. when we come back here, we'll go a little on the lighter side. lewis standing by with the water cooler and, of course,
of course, george w. bush was manager and part owner from 1989 to 1998 before his presidential run. >>> to the nba, magic johnson court side watching the wizards take on the knicks. first quarter. john wall makes jason kidd look bad. that's what happens when you're 39 and getting dribbled on by a 22-year-old. amare stoudemire with the rejection. three blocks on the game. fourth quarter, wizards up by five. walsh gives it up to the teammate for the dunk. they snap the knicks winning...
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bush, bill clinton and george w. bush. interesting these picks. we'll nominate brennan and we'll nominate sally jewell and whether there's actually going to be a substantive discussion about energy, climate issues and also national security policy remains to be d. on that very thoughtful note, i will leave the program. thank you to rick, john, maggie and hugo and don't forget to pick up john's book, thomas jefferson, the art of power. that's all for now. i'll see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern 9:00 a.m. pacific when i'm joined by sam stein, michael haney and the aclu. you can find us on facebook. andrea mitchell reports is coming up next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 when i'm trading, i'm totally focused. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 gives me tools that help me find opportunities more easily. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can even access it from the cloud and trade on any computer. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and with schwab mobile, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can focu
bush, bill clinton and george w. bush. interesting these picks. we'll nominate brennan and we'll nominate sally jewell and whether there's actually going to be a substantive discussion about energy, climate issues and also national security policy remains to be d. on that very thoughtful note, i will leave the program. thank you to rick, john, maggie and hugo and don't forget to pick up john's book, thomas jefferson, the art of power. that's all for now. i'll see you back here tomorrow at noon...
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. >> well, how did karl rove and -- actually, george w. bush specifically on the issue of immigration, how did these guys get on the left side of the argument? i mean, has there been a backlash against them on the right that has driven the party further right in a way that has demonized them, and now they need to be seen as the old liberal establishment, or has something else been going on? >> well, i think you begin to see the backlash against bush right in the middle of his term. remember, he tried, as did a lot of democrats and john mccain to get immigration reform through in 2007. and that's when the backlash grew. and then when the bush administration was deemed a failure, which many of us believed broadly that it was, a lot of conservatives said that's true. and instead of trying to moderate the party then, they said the problem was this compassionate conservative guy was too liberal. so they pulled the party way over to the right. the problem they have now is the tea party folks are the folks who kind of got them there in 2010. and
. >> well, how did karl rove and -- actually, george w. bush specifically on the issue of immigration, how did these guys get on the left side of the argument? i mean, has there been a backlash against them on the right that has driven the party further right in a way that has demonized them, and now they need to be seen as the old liberal establishment, or has something else been going on? >> well, i think you begin to see the backlash against bush right in the middle of his term....
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"this time it's not about george w. bush's impact or an upcoming election or recovering from major setbacks from the last one. obama's trying to advance his most ambitious legislative agenda since his first year in office, and he's doing it on the heels of a re-election victory. the country just doubled down on obama's agenda, which isn't something the president could have said even at his peak of popularity in early 2009." mike murphy, that's the backdrop. how do you see his approach? >> well, i'm a critic of it, and i hope he changes it with the state of the union for this reason. there's no doubt he won fair and square. he got 66 million votes, but 61 million people voted to fire him, and they're in about 230 republican congressional districts where those incumbents don't care about getting e-mails from the president or michelle. he has to get out of the way of immigration or the deal will blow up. and the republicans in the short-term have the politics to hunker down. in the midterm elections, some of those senate r
"this time it's not about george w. bush's impact or an upcoming election or recovering from major setbacks from the last one. obama's trying to advance his most ambitious legislative agenda since his first year in office, and he's doing it on the heels of a re-election victory. the country just doubled down on obama's agenda, which isn't something the president could have said even at his peak of popularity in early 2009." mike murphy, that's the backdrop. how do you see his...
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former speechwriter for george w. bush, now columnist for "the washington post" michael gerson. strategist mike murphy, and bbc's katty kay. as well as michael isikoff who broke the headline this week about america's drone policy. all coming up after this short commercial break. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by northern trust, providing solid financial to you by northern trust, providi[ male announcer ] no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs ] ♪ you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. [ snores ] vicks nyquil. powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ [ sniffles, coughs ] excuse me. i need something for my cold symptoms. [ sniffles ] we've got dayquil for day and nyquil for night. [ thuds ] you didn't see that. [ male announcer ] right now at walgreens dayquil and nyquil are just $10.99 with card. or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before and there'll be no gas. can your moisturizer do that? [ female announcer ] dermatolog
former speechwriter for george w. bush, now columnist for "the washington post" michael gerson. strategist mike murphy, and bbc's katty kay. as well as michael isikoff who broke the headline this week about america's drone policy. all coming up after this short commercial break. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by northern trust, providing solid financial to you by northern trust, providi[ male announcer ] no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs...
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he says if this were going on under george w. bush, he would have raised hell about it. and the fact that the president is barack obama doesn't change the fact that he's going to raise hell about this, that the president of the united states, if he's going to, as he says, violate the rights of an american citizen by killing him through a drone strike, that the president or the high government -- senior government official has to go to someone, some sort of court for approval to get this done. as richard said, the three criteria set up in that justice department white paper are incredibly elastic. imminent threat, capture infeasible, last resort, those are all things, as richard said, especially the imminent threat, is something that's violated every day when they do these drone strikes. so while i understand why you're not bothered by it, that could be because the president who's implementing this policy is someone you trust, but there are going to be other presidents. and as has been reported i believe on msnbc yesterday, maybe even by kelly, that it's the precedent tha
he says if this were going on under george w. bush, he would have raised hell about it. and the fact that the president is barack obama doesn't change the fact that he's going to raise hell about this, that the president of the united states, if he's going to, as he says, violate the rights of an american citizen by killing him through a drone strike, that the president or the high government -- senior government official has to go to someone, some sort of court for approval to get this done....
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. >> joining me now is wayne slater and he's co-author of "bush's brain" how karl rove made george w. bush presidential. wayne, have republicans stopped being afraid of karl rove? >> boy, you see some indication of that with various tea party elements with christian conservatives and otheringss wh think others have been afraid to say very much about him because he was the king of the money with all of the power and for eight years and president of the white house, i think they've seen some of the limits of carl. so you begin to see this kind of criticism. but i really, when you see people like john huntsman and christian conservatives and tea party activists and columnists and so forth on the far right who think they've been used by carl over the years and have gotten belittled as a result of it now criticizing it, i think they do so at their own peril. karl has been down after the re-election of george bush which was a disaster of the democratic party, if karl can hold on to the millionaires and billionaires, at least some of them, beginning here in texas, then he's not finished. >>
. >> joining me now is wayne slater and he's co-author of "bush's brain" how karl rove made george w. bush presidential. wayne, have republicans stopped being afraid of karl rove? >> boy, you see some indication of that with various tea party elements with christian conservatives and otheringss wh think others have been afraid to say very much about him because he was the king of the money with all of the power and for eight years and president of the white house, i think...
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nothing about the conservatism with a face as we saw from george w. bush when he first ran for president. this is a way to kind of turn away from the spending cuts, be what republicans could be more for in addition to spending cuts. >> as pointed out, this is not cantor's first crack as it put in the article repackaging republicanism or second or third. and the focus of cuts if that had resulted in wins in election, of course, we wouldn't hear his new remarks about immigration or perhaps even supporting the dream act. >> well, and that's right. and the politico article you were referencing did say this is yet another speech of cantor that seems to be reinventing himself but politics is also about reinventing yourself and looking at the political wnds and remarkable someone that voted against the dream act stands for it. i do think that could have repercussions even though the dream act is only one small part of the legalization and other people are fighting for. >> thank you very much. great pleasure having you on. david gregory will have an interview
nothing about the conservatism with a face as we saw from george w. bush when he first ran for president. this is a way to kind of turn away from the spending cuts, be what republicans could be more for in addition to spending cuts. >> as pointed out, this is not cantor's first crack as it put in the article repackaging republicanism or second or third. and the focus of cuts if that had resulted in wins in election, of course, we wouldn't hear his new remarks about immigration or perhaps...
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w. i think most of this was caught up in issues of internal executive deliberation. environment happy the white house has come out now. they now see what john's nomination -- they had to provide the actual office of legal counsel memorandum to the senate intel committee to move his nomination forward, and, frankly, i really do think that's a good thing. >> well, chris, you have been a student of these things. you've watched the ebb and flow. the white house released this at 7:01, just a minute too late, they knew, to get it meaningfully on the evening newscast. the president called senator who was the person really pushing most publicly for it. why so reluctant? why dragging their feet? why did they finally cave in. >> first of all, andrea, you know this better than i do. there is no such thing as coincidence in politics. this was not a coincidence for when they released it, you are right. they released it so that it would not get the amount of coverage, and, look, i think they released
w. i think most of this was caught up in issues of internal executive deliberation. environment happy the white house has come out now. they now see what john's nomination -- they had to provide the actual office of legal counsel memorandum to the senate intel committee to move his nomination forward, and, frankly, i really do think that's a good thing. >> well, chris, you have been a student of these things. you've watched the ebb and flow. the white house released this at 7:01, just a...
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w. >> they are just make making it fun. >> it's brilliant. there are always more sane people in the we call them the no nothings. they are encapsulated in the tea party and the only reason that karl rove was considered a genius, he managed to convince the crazy people in the conservative party that a methodist named george w. bush -- now, i grew up methodist. they are the most mild mannered christian. they just nod affirmatively, that he was an evangelical right wing thrower like they are. he put one over on them and now they've figured it out. they've had a taste of power and they want to run things. >> howard, what does the brent bozell side of the party think about actually winning elections? is that -- is that come into their calculations anywhere? >> i think somehow they think history will bend in their direction, if they just sit or stand firmly enough. that's what they are. that's what they do. and they are relatively more numerous and powerful now in the republican party than the
w. >> they are just make making it fun. >> it's brilliant. there are always more sane people in the we call them the no nothings. they are encapsulated in the tea party and the only reason that karl rove was considered a genius, he managed to convince the crazy people in the conservative party that a methodist named george w. bush -- now, i grew up methodist. they are the most mild mannered christian. they just nod affirmatively, that he was an evangelical right wing thrower like...
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w. and i think it's a moral outrage. i think americans of all stripes ought to stand up and say no. and this is why the progressive caucus members have offered the balancing act. because, you know, there is a way forward. there is a way to address budgetary and gdeficit issues ad invest in our economy. there's a way to protect people who are must vulnerable and to ask people who have been blessed to pony up a little bit more. it's not going to stop them from getting yachts and planes and all those goodies. but kids will have meals. >> yes, indeed. >> and seniors will have warm houses to live in. >> joy, i seem to recall that this issue of closing loopholes and reducing deductions was suggested by some republicans not so long ago. take a listen. >> we propose to close those special interest loopholes. let's ged rid of special interest loopholes. plug loopholes, lower everybody's tax rates. get rid of special interest loopholes. plug these loopholes. >> so for mr. ryan, plugging loopholes
w. and i think it's a moral outrage. i think americans of all stripes ought to stand up and say no. and this is why the progressive caucus members have offered the balancing act. because, you know, there is a way forward. there is a way to address budgetary and gdeficit issues ad invest in our economy. there's a way to protect people who are must vulnerable and to ask people who have been blessed to pony up a little bit more. it's not going to stop them from getting yachts and planes and all...
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., is president obama closer to george w. bush -- >> i don't think so. what you see is safeguards. former secretary robert gates saying we should have a core court going forward to make sure that we're -- that we're following procedure. you have brennan say in his hearing if we miss a target we should disclose it. that all represents a very different tone from what you saw under the bush administration, one of trying to have a procedure and openness and transparency and bringing everybody together to try to agree on how we balance security and privacy. >> the chairman of the intelligent committee says there's no need. let me play that. >> there is plenty of oversight here. there's not an american list somewhere overseas for targeting. that does not exist. i think there's sensationalism. this is a serious matter, but i think the rules have been consistent. >> chip, as you know, the act established 'federal court that oversees suspected foreign spies working in the u.s., so the question that's being debated is should there be a fisa-like legal check on drone use. >> i think this is a
., is president obama closer to george w. bush -- >> i don't think so. what you see is safeguards. former secretary robert gates saying we should have a core court going forward to make sure that we're -- that we're following procedure. you have brennan say in his hearing if we miss a target we should disclose it. that all represents a very different tone from what you saw under the bush administration, one of trying to have a procedure and openness and transparency and bringing everybody...
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that's eight times as many as under president george w. bush. and now nbc news's michael isikoff has obtained a 16-page justice department memo that makes the legal argument to justify this administration's use of drones to kill terror suspects, including american citizens. the government can order the killing of its own citizens without due process if those citizens are believed to be senior operational leaders of al qaeda or an associated force, even if there is no intel indicating they are involved in an active plot to attack the united states. today attorney general eric holder addressed the issue. >> we only take these kinds of actions when there is an imminent threat, when capture is not feasible, and when we are confident we are doing so in a way that is consistent with federal and international law. >> yet, according to the memo, the government gets to define the word "imminent" in a very broad way. the condition that an operational leader present an imminent threat of violent attack against the united states does not require clear evide
that's eight times as many as under president george w. bush. and now nbc news's michael isikoff has obtained a 16-page justice department memo that makes the legal argument to justify this administration's use of drones to kill terror suspects, including american citizens. the government can order the killing of its own citizens without due process if those citizens are believed to be senior operational leaders of al qaeda or an associated force, even if there is no intel indicating they are...
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w. mark glaze is the director of mayors against illegal guns which is responsible for that super bowl ad. and michael eric dyson is a professor at georgetown university and an msnbc political analyst. thank you both for joining us. mark, it's almost two months since that horrific shooting at sandy hook elementary school. and it seems as though we started the conversation by considering every gun safety initiative from assault weapons bans to restricting gun capacity -- the capacity of gun magazines, yet now the nra says even background checks are worthless, so is that it? is that the end of the discussion? >> well, i don't think the nra marks the end of the discussion. i think it marks the beginning of the discussion. you know, you have this unusual period of time where the public is really focused on this, including the president, 850 mayors and police officers which you saw today in minneapolis, and there is majority support, even among gun owners for most if not all of those propositi
w. mark glaze is the director of mayors against illegal guns which is responsible for that super bowl ad. and michael eric dyson is a professor at georgetown university and an msnbc political analyst. thank you both for joining us. mark, it's almost two months since that horrific shooting at sandy hook elementary school. and it seems as though we started the conversation by considering every gun safety initiative from assault weapons bans to restricting gun capacity -- the capacity of gun...
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w. the san bernardino sheriff says they have about 25 officers out today supported by a helicopter. that's about a quarter of the number of officers they had at the beginning of the search. but as they've sort of whittled down the number of vacant lodges and cabins up there that they've got to check, they're shifting the manpower accordingly. and of course, that is the area where they found dorner's burned-out pickup truck on thursday. the last time they saw any trace of him, the officials acknowledge they have had no sightings of him since then and no new evidence of where he may be, craig. >> quickly, i know the lapd is reopening the investigation into his dismissal from the department. what are they hoping to clear up? >> a part of that is to try to, they say, chief beck says it's to try to reassure the community that they are taking these allegations of racism seriously. >> okay. >> they say they are not trying to appease him, but of course, in his manifesto, he said he wanted his na
w. the san bernardino sheriff says they have about 25 officers out today supported by a helicopter. that's about a quarter of the number of officers they had at the beginning of the search. but as they've sort of whittled down the number of vacant lodges and cabins up there that they've got to check, they're shifting the manpower accordingly. and of course, that is the area where they found dorner's burned-out pickup truck on thursday. the last time they saw any trace of him, the officials...
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for bill clinton, it was education reform and failed and for george w. bush it was social security reform which crashed and burned. what does your gut tell you? do you think the president will persuade congress to push the agenda forward? go to facebook to cast that vote. that does it for this edition of "news nation." tomorrow reaction to the president's state of the union address, historian doug brinkley and the daily beast michael tomasky, both join us. "the cycle" is up next. . that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. i worked a patrol unit for 17 years in the city of baltimore. when i first started experiencing the pain, it's hard to describe because you have a numbness but yet you have the pain like thousands of needles sticking in your foot. it was progressively getting worse, and at that point, i knew i had to do something. when i went back to my health care profession
for bill clinton, it was education reform and failed and for george w. bush it was social security reform which crashed and burned. what does your gut tell you? do you think the president will persuade congress to push the agenda forward? go to facebook to cast that vote. that does it for this edition of "news nation." tomorrow reaction to the president's state of the union address, historian doug brinkley and the daily beast michael tomasky, both join us. "the cycle" is up...
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and then, of course, george w. bush in 2002 when he had the axis of evil speech against north korea, iran, and iraq. >> james, how about you? how do you rate actually the president's state of the union speeches thus far? look at the last four. >> when you look at the last couple, where he's really thinking about the wind down of the iraq war and honoring veterans, you can see some of the things that you'll see on tuesday because he's also talking about the economy and immigration and that one. if you go back to 2011 and look at how he tried to use the moment around the gabby giffords tragedy to talk about public and private compromise, democratic compromise. you'll see the themes on tuesday that will pick up on themes from his earlier ones. it's sprg to see how he'll frame it. gabby giffords framed one. end of the iraq war framed one. what exactly is going to frame this speech on tuesday is a good question to consider. >> dugdouglas, can i ask you, i this typically his third state of the union and not the fourth? i
and then, of course, george w. bush in 2002 when he had the axis of evil speech against north korea, iran, and iraq. >> james, how about you? how do you rate actually the president's state of the union speeches thus far? look at the last four. >> when you look at the last couple, where he's really thinking about the wind down of the iraq war and honoring veterans, you can see some of the things that you'll see on tuesday because he's also talking about the economy and immigration...
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it brought back unwelcome memories of memos written for president george w. bush to justify illegal wiretapping, indefinite detention, kidnapping, abuse, and torture. "time's" writer david carr put it more success iktly. drones, very effective at targeting and wiping out rule of law. the ensuing uproar over the white paper has increased pressure on president obama to release the classified version. a 2010 memo used by the justice department to support the 2011 drone killing of american born cleric anwar al alaki. last night the white house announced it would release the classified document to members of the congressional intelligence committee. the administration asserted the move would fulfill a promise made by the president during an appearance on the daily show last year. >> one of the things that we've got to do is put a legal architecture in place, and we need congressional help to do to make sure that not only am i reigned in, but any president is reigned in in terms of some of the decisions we're making. >> well, scrutiny of the drone program seems to
it brought back unwelcome memories of memos written for president george w. bush to justify illegal wiretapping, indefinite detention, kidnapping, abuse, and torture. "time's" writer david carr put it more success iktly. drones, very effective at targeting and wiping out rule of law. the ensuing uproar over the white paper has increased pressure on president obama to release the classified version. a 2010 memo used by the justice department to support the 2011 drone killing of...
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w. >>> also, more and more people on the right are asking, who is karl rove and why should we listen to him anymore? rove wants electable republicans nominated. the tea partiers want their people in, real right wingers, and they're trashing rove and establishment republicans in the process. >>> plus, you've probably heard that chuck hagel once said the following, quote, the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. i'm not an israeli senator. i'm a united states senator. but what you probably haven't heard is the rest of that interview and why some people who know what hagel really said aren't angry with him at all. >>> and why is chris christie talking so much about his weight? maybe because he wants to talk about it on his terms, and why might that be? because perhaps he's running for president. >>> finally, the recently fired dick morris admits he was wrong at the top of his lungs last november. that's fine, but was he really wrong in predicting a romney landslide or did he kn
w. >>> also, more and more people on the right are asking, who is karl rove and why should we listen to him anymore? rove wants electable republicans nominated. the tea partiers want their people in, real right wingers, and they're trashing rove and establishment republicans in the process. >>> plus, you've probably heard that chuck hagel once said the following, quote, the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. i'm not an israeli senator. i'm a united states...
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w. bush and any way to adjudicate the possibilities of what war means to the obama administration? >> well, i think that, i think that is absolutely right, it has been a continuation of the bush administration policies, and yes, administrations always try to push the outer bounds of the authority. but one thank is clear is that the laws of war have not changed even if the practice has changed. there are really three reasons that a country can, a state can use force outside of its borders. one, if it is the victim of an armed attack and second if the u.n. security council authorizes it, and three, assisting a state that requests it, and we have stretched that boundary as well far beyond what the laws of war call for. so i think that there is a very serious question about this question of perpetual war, but we should remember historically in the 20th century, the u.s. was at war virtually every decade of the 20th century, so if we think of ourselves as peaceful country that does not engage
w. bush and any way to adjudicate the possibilities of what war means to the obama administration? >> well, i think that, i think that is absolutely right, it has been a continuation of the bush administration policies, and yes, administrations always try to push the outer bounds of the authority. but one thank is clear is that the laws of war have not changed even if the practice has changed. there are really three reasons that a country can, a state can use force outside of its borders....
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lot got in trouble including george w. bush for imbetter and things like that. >> keeping the ball rolling william harrison there was a ball. >> they moved from town to town. >> for what purpose? >> to create buzz. it was a campaign game mick, a giant ball made with paper mac hi er and wire. the early presidents, john adams' caucus. madison came up with squatter. these guys saw the language as something we had to create on our own. webster kept saying we have to create an american language. it's not the king's english, the language of the trader and the trapper and the farmer. >> fascinating one martin van buren, ok. >> old kinderhook. the first summer in august everything in washington gets all wee-wee'd up. >> teddy radios development coo loose cannon and sees the armor in new york and sees the descending staircase and comes up with packrat, one of his trips to south america he sees the rat picking up pieces and comes one the word packrat which is not a scientific name when you address that. he came one malfactors of gre
lot got in trouble including george w. bush for imbetter and things like that. >> keeping the ball rolling william harrison there was a ball. >> they moved from town to town. >> for what purpose? >> to create buzz. it was a campaign game mick, a giant ball made with paper mac hi er and wire. the early presidents, john adams' caucus. madison came up with squatter. these guys saw the language as something we had to create on our own. webster kept saying we have to create...